For example, there are Pepper Blast shells that shoot cayenne pepper. The results are only temporary, so nobody will suffer long-term effects.Bean bag guns!
This was possible because a prior case I was involved in proved that the DA tried to force me to cry guilty, instead I put that puppies face in his own poo. But it’s sure safer than a bullet.It’s not just a gun, and it’s not just pepper spray - it’s both! Cheap, too strong for them to break free. And you can’t shoot a ghost (trust me i tried, ended up killing my bird dog)Have you tried an ectoplasma rifle in the 40 watt range?I would rather my Nieces have to Explain to the Sheriff why some Asswipe has a Fist sized hole in his chest from My Glock 30, Than to have to ID their body at the morgue. To the contrary, having a mag with one or two LTL rounds at the beginning in fact indicates that you are not looking for an excuse to murder someone (like the two-to-the-body-and-one-to-the-head guy above). And don’t just shoot once. Any of these would be far superior to any 22 from an NAA.In riot situations where people are shooting you with paintball guns and spraying pepper spray at you, etc. I would not feel outgunned with a 10/22 loaded with CCI Stingers.the miami shootout and the north hollywood bank battle are not typical self defense cases. (fire and forget)i am not sure about LTL buck, but a 12 gauge beanbag to the chest will break damn near every one of your ribs, take all the air out of your lungs, and drop you to the ground, incapacitating you for a good long time, as opposed to a 9mm, which hurt like hell, but will not immediately stop a charging homicidal maniac.
She fired a couple shots and ther ran away. Not through broken ribs and potentially punctured lungs. One day, you are working in one of your outbuildings and see some teenagers on your property near another outbuilding.
It works.
it certainty dropped the robber. I would imagine four or five of those from a 10/22 will discourage most attackers. There is another less than lethal weapon that I’ve been looking at lately. #4 shot has up to 8, 24 caliber pellets in it. fortunately for us this type of badguy is rare in this country.The problem is the drugged-up perps.
Not reliably. Qty: ... Twice the deterrant. If someone had a firearm (not allowed here) maybe he could have been stopped.less lethal ammunition is used to gain compliance from a person when lethal force is not required but is justified, that is why you should always have backup that has lethal ammunition.
Say what you want but Non-Lethal is an option and a tool, if used right can change the out come of a situation and keep you out of jail.I have to agree with you at least for home safety. NEW! If you use the LTL rounds, the question for the courts is now “if your life/health was not in immediate danger, why did you use a firearm (which represents lethal force) in the first place?”And if your LTL round hits the perp in an eye, or does any other kind of permanent damage, you are going to be sued into poverty.If you have to shoot someone to save your life or prevent GBH, shoot them with a real gun and real bullets.
but I would not be in prison.My reply was in response to Lance M’s post not yours.The fact that someone I know was sued for shooting someone the broke into his home he only hit him in the arm I live in the same town served 20 year’s in the army I was home with my family between deployments when someone tried to rob my house they were getting to close to my kids room I fired three round burst killing the intruder and I was never second guessed by my local law enforcement I don’t care what people say non lethal rounds are not an option for me if someone is a threat to my family my response is to use deadly forceMy reply was misdirected, it was supposed to be in response to both your’s and Charles M’s post’s.
If you are looking for home defense that is less than lethal, i definitely suggest bean bag, it is tested and proven, and will drop just about anyone (unless they are on PCP, that stuff does crazy thing) instantly. From a court stand point, [unfortunately] its better to have a dead burglar and a knife wound to your gut, than just a dead burglar.Not at all a case in point. Just because the heart is still technically pumping blood out of the body, it doesn’t mean the person is conscious for it. You can call it whatever you want, because you’re leaving.”I only use 9mm FMJ. I did what I had to do to save my life. Trust me.
Most pigs are trigger happy Rambo’s who have no common street sense. The sheriff’s deputies (who are a half-hour’s drive away) tell you that you cannot shoot them to protect your property, and they advise you not to confront them if they come back – but they say that they can’t give you legal advice on what to do. A triple tap to the chest with a 9mm loaded up with rubber bullets, there’s less damage from a 2.5 pound sledge to the ribs.This seems like a bogus argument, unless you load your magazine *after* the threat appears. You’re mistaking this guy in your house as someone who thinks like yourself. Run away, drive away etc.
You shoot to stop the threat. That is, if it doesn’t break a rib and punctures a lung.Here is how I see it, I don’t want to kill anyone unless there is no other option under the law. Even a heart shot to a determined person gives them 11 or so seconds to kill you on their way out.I don’t think it’s fair to compare a .22 to a “less than lethal” round. Defenzia. You and your family if he gets away will be under constant paranoia. If you’re going to hit him center mass with a single bullet, you’re probably going to hit him with the same center mass shot with 3-8 rounds with a Governor or a Judge, and while the muzzle velocity of the G&J might be miserable in the high 800’s Your’re hitting him with potentially 18 – 48 rounds of ammunition!.22 ballistically speaking is almost a perfect round with regard to gun powder to bullet weight. Just because you can kill someone who is attacking you doesn’t mean you are allowed to.
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